Gender Queer

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Permalink Reply by Genia Stevens on February 24, 2009 at 1:21pm

The Trans House group might be an excellent source for you:

http://www.gaywallet.com/group/transhouse

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Permalink Reply by Lesbians4Lesbians.com on February 24, 2009 at 1:31pm

Great I will give them a shout out, thanks

SistersTalk said:

The Trans House group might be an excellent source for you:

http://www.gaywallet.com/group/transhouse

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Permalink Reply by Linus Bourque on February 24, 2009 at 1:53pm

Let's see here..

Genderqueer: would be defined as someone who doesn't fall within the strict gender binary. Some examples can include trans folks, butches, femmes, androgynes, non-gender identified individuals (neither male nor female nor androgynous).

That would be my definition. I'm sure others can expound, add or take away from that.

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Permalink Reply by Lesbians4Lesbians.com on February 24, 2009 at 2:16pm

Is it safe to say that the GenderQueer term is more of a revolution, stripping the classifications of any given stereotype and freeing yourself to be what ever, whenever you want, without stereotypical gender boundaries? And subsequently the term GenderQueer is all encompassing of any variation of the Mackenzie scale Gender? Its more of a revelation and an acceptance as being a GenderQueer and someone who doesn't necessarily accept that societal roles of Gender, or sees them as every changing?

Linus Bourque said:

Let's see here..

Genderqueer: would be defined as someone who doesn't fall within the strict gender binary. Some examples can include trans folks, butches, femmes, androgynes, non-gender identified individuals (neither male nor female nor androgynous).

That would be my definition. I'm sure others can expound, add or take away from that.

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Permalink Reply by Linus Bourque on February 24, 2009 at 2:23pm

It can be that. Transgender and genderqueer are both terms that can be hugely freeing as well as umbrella terms (kinda like queer itself can be -- it can be a political statement, a personal statement, etc.).

Mackenzie scale?? Never heard of that -- unless you mean Benjamin, referring to Harry Benjamin and his scale (e.g., http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/benjamin_gd.html). If this is the one you're referring to, then yes. Otherwise, I have to admit ignorance on the Mackenzie scale.

To your last question, I'd say yes.

Lesbians4Lesbians.com said:

Is it safe to say that the GenderQueer term is more of a revolution, stripping the classifications of any given stereotype and freeing yourself to be what ever, whenever you want, without stereotypical gender boundaries? And subsequently the term GenderQueer is all encompassing of any variation of the Mackenzie scale Gender? Its more of a revelation and an acceptance as being a GenderQueer and someone who doesn't necessarily accept that societal roles of Gender, or sees them as every changing?

Linus Bourque said:

Let's see here..

Genderqueer: would be defined as someone who doesn't fall within the strict gender binary. Some examples can include trans folks, butches, femmes, androgynes, non-gender identified individuals (neither male nor female nor androgynous).

That would be my definition. I'm sure others can expound, add or take away from that.

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Permalink Reply by Lesbians4Lesbians.com on February 24, 2009 at 3:26pm

Kinsey Scale, you can imagine the trouble I was having searching that on the internet having spelled it so wrong. I thought Kinsey had expanded on his sexuality scale to also have a gender scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale .

Linus Bourque said:

It can be that. Transgender and genderqueer are both terms that can be hugely freeing as well as umbrella terms (kinda like queer itself can be -- it can be a political statement, a personal statement, etc.).

Mackenzie scale?? Never heard of that -- unless you mean Benjamin, referring to Harry Benjamin and his scale (e.g., http://www.genderpsychology.org/transsexual/benjamin_gd.html). If this is the one you're referring to, then yes. Otherwise, I have to admit ignorance on the Mackenzie scale.

To your last question, I'd say yes.

Lesbians4Lesbians.com said:

Is it safe to say that the GenderQueer term is more of a revolution, stripping the classifications of any given stereotype and freeing yourself to be what ever, whenever you want, without stereotypical gender boundaries? And subsequently the term GenderQueer is all encompassing of any variation of the Mackenzie scale Gender? Its more of a revelation and an acceptance as being a GenderQueer and someone who doesn't necessarily accept that societal roles of Gender, or sees them as every changing?

Linus Bourque said:

Let's see here..

Genderqueer: would be defined as someone who doesn't fall within the strict gender binary. Some examples can include trans folks, butches, femmes, androgynes, non-gender identified individuals (neither male nor female nor androgynous).

That would be my definition. I'm sure others can expound, add or take away from that.

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Permalink Reply by Lesbians4Lesbians.com on February 24, 2009 at 3:32pm

Leslie Feinberg Lengthy but well worth it. Found this in my searches on the internet for GenderQueer

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Permalink Reply by Linus Bourque on February 24, 2009 at 4:36pm

The Benjamin Scale may also help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_scale

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